#NoahSamsen - Free Talk Live

realcaseyrollins ✝️Okay to be fair the results on the other end of the political spectrum are almost as badNice catch for including <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.teci.world/tag/noahsamsen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NoahSamsen</a>’s video about left wing <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.teci.world/tag/youtube" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#YouTube</a> channels, which is tangentially related

casey is remote@sam@masto.dotsod.com you may enjoy this old thread I made when I was watching a <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> video about <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Breadtube" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Breadtube</a>:<a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/@realcaseyrollins/108219929341447258" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://social.freetalklive.com/@realcaseyrollins/108219929341447258</a>I think this was the video I was watching:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z3MqJakNbI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z3MqJakNbI</a>

casey is remote<a href="https://mastodon.lol/@xxblazeitxx" class="u-url mention">@xxblazeitxx</a> <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Hasanabi" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Hasanabi</a> actually said in a clip <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> used that he's not entirely opposed to debates writ large, just how some people perform themI do think he suffers from the <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/BenShapiro" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#BenShapiro</a> slash <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/StevenCrowder" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#StevenCrowder</a> problem of only being willing to debate people he views are easy dubs, or at least dubs, which isn't shocking because he's basically <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/StevenCrowder" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#StevenCrowder</a> but left leaning and toxic to his own viewers

casey is remoteNow don't take any of this to mean that I like <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Vaush" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Vaush</a>. I don't. I think he did badly in his debate with <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/CharlieKirk" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#CharlieKirk</a>, although that didn't hurt him too much because so did <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/CharlieKirk" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#CharlieKirk</a> lol.<a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Vaush" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Vaush</a> seems to be a master of marrying faulty claims with flawless logic. It's hard to argue with his logic but you can't lose sight of the fact that he sometimes makes assumptions that aren't true.<a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> has the inverse problem: he comes to objectively good conclusions most(?) of the time, but he uses bad--if any--logic to get there.The best defense of ideas requires facts with as little framing and assumptions as possible, with raw logic.

casey is remoteHol up the more I watch this video, the more I realize that <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> is just wrong and this video is bad. It comes from putting the cart before the horse, by putting the conclusion above the logic that takes you there.For example, from his standpoint, black nationalism is good, and genocide is bad. However, when <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Vaush" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Vaush</a> points out that because of how populated the earth is, and how opposed most folks would be to a black separatist nation, violence would be necessary, that you legitimize violence and in some rare cases genocide. Now, <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> chooses to state that he's wrong for saying black nationalists are sympathetic to genocide...despite playing a clip from somebody who is legitimately advocating for it, and then HIM CUTTING TO HIMSELF AGREEING!Look dude, either say that genocide is legitimate in extreme cases, or that black nationalists are wrong if they support genocide. Don't let your support for a black separatist nation let you support genocide, and don't let your hatred for genocide prevent you from seeing that black nationalism enables it.You must, ABSOLUTELY MUST understand that goals and means are two different things, and you can say "hey, black nations sound cool, I support those" while also saying "ethically, I can't support every single method that could possibly be used to achieve this goal".

casey is remote<a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> is saying <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Vaush" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Vaush</a> was wrong, so if he's wrong, that's an entirely different situation. However, that section of the video should have been framed more like "get your facts straight" rather than "you're just a Nazi man"

casey is remoteHmm I'm watching 40 minutes into a <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/breadtube" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#breadtube</a> vid and I kinda wanna clap back on a point <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> is making...He's claiming that <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Vaush" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Vaush</a> should never have stated in a debate with <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NonCompete" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NonCompete</a> that Nazis claimed that Jewish control of the banks was bringing the country down, and that Jews did in fact own a majority of the banks, merely because that fact has been used as an antisemitic talking point.I mean, facts are facts, it's different than using that fact to make a racist point. <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Vaush" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Vaush</a> wasn't saying that the Jews were evil, nor that they were actually bringing the country down, he was just acknowledging that they did indeed control more banks than other groups did.Furthermore, <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NonCompete" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NonCompete</a> fled to debate because his logic set him up to defend Nazism, and he was prepared to neither defend Nazis (understandable) nor abandon his logic (also understandable). See, he was stating that any group has the right to violently overthrow another group if they sensed they were being oppressed. Well, <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/Vaush" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Vaush</a> (very validly) was pointing out that he was wrong, because the Nazis perceived themselves as oppressed by Jewish bankers, and violently oppressed them in return.What <a href="https://social.freetalklive.com/tags/NoahSamsen" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NoahSamsen</a> needs to understand is the difference between a fact and a point. I understand that antisemites say "ah, Jews control the banks" to excuse their hatred of Jews. But that doesn't mean that anyone who points out that Jews own more banks than other groups also hates Jews. That's a parts-to-whole fallacy and keeps well-meaning people from accepting aspects of reality.

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